Noticed that the Phoenix City Council cut Jeremy off in mid-sentence. Not exactly a First Amendment “address your government” friendly place. Cold, uncaring government. One time, we were at the 7th hour of a 8 hour Committee hearing when a woman in the audience began crying. I got up, went out, knelt down and asked her how we could help her. She said a friend of hers was dying in the hospital. A senate page came up and asked if I wanted her to get the Health Committee Analyst.
Two years later, a woman came up to me, introduced herself, Kelly Satterfield. Said “if not for you, I’d be dead.”
Very seldom any reason for limiting people to three minutes. The right to address your government is so important they wrote it into the constitution. And, Jeremy had interesting information. Also, the way they signal the end of your time is rude and cold.
In forty years of chairing committees, never once did I cut off a witness. Instead, I would ask them questions to get to the root of their problem.
The other thing I did was I ignored open meeting law. Open meeting law says that you have to ignore such open meeting testimony. I never did. I would always ask questions if I were chairing the committee to ensure the citizen knew that they had been understood, completely.
The Phoenix City Councils compliance with open meeting law is pure, cold, unemotional and likely meaningless.
Jeremy is very unlikely to get golf courses shut down. Likely, 7 to 8% of Phoenix residents are golfers. That would be more than 10% of households. Probably more than 18% of voting households. His real interest is that he wants to be part of the 0.0001% that plays disc golf and gets 0.0004% of the land and water to do that. The council should listen to him and research the issue. People need to get off their obese buttocks and get outside where there are fewer refrigerators.
Jeremy also is likely abusing open meeting law and you are inviting people to abuse it further. I find it impossible to believe that that he can’t get an excel spreadsheet listing each golf course, their water consumption by month, the totals for the year and the cost.
If you abuse your rights, you lose them. That’s what happened to this law. Kavanaugh's legislation allows government to ignore requests that are abusive. Which opens the door to them ignoring politically uncomfortable requests.
If Jeremy wants to “audit” that data, don’t pull a cyber ninja on Phoenix, he needs to select one golf course. Or better yet, do a public records request to the Salt River Project, the supplier and see if the supplier data matches the user data.
Noticed that the Phoenix City Council cut Jeremy off in mid-sentence. Not exactly a First Amendment “address your government” friendly place. Cold, uncaring government. One time, we were at the 7th hour of a 8 hour Committee hearing when a woman in the audience began crying. I got up, went out, knelt down and asked her how we could help her. She said a friend of hers was dying in the hospital. A senate page came up and asked if I wanted her to get the Health Committee Analyst.
Two years later, a woman came up to me, introduced herself, Kelly Satterfield. Said “if not for you, I’d be dead.”
Very seldom any reason for limiting people to three minutes. The right to address your government is so important they wrote it into the constitution. And, Jeremy had interesting information. Also, the way they signal the end of your time is rude and cold.
In forty years of chairing committees, never once did I cut off a witness. Instead, I would ask them questions to get to the root of their problem.
The other thing I did was I ignored open meeting law. Open meeting law says that you have to ignore such open meeting testimony. I never did. I would always ask questions if I were chairing the committee to ensure the citizen knew that they had been understood, completely.
The Phoenix City Councils compliance with open meeting law is pure, cold, unemotional and likely meaningless.
Jeremy is very unlikely to get golf courses shut down. Likely, 7 to 8% of Phoenix residents are golfers. That would be more than 10% of households. Probably more than 18% of voting households. His real interest is that he wants to be part of the 0.0001% that plays disc golf and gets 0.0004% of the land and water to do that. The council should listen to him and research the issue. People need to get off their obese buttocks and get outside where there are fewer refrigerators.
Jeremy also is likely abusing open meeting law and you are inviting people to abuse it further. I find it impossible to believe that that he can’t get an excel spreadsheet listing each golf course, their water consumption by month, the totals for the year and the cost.
If you abuse your rights, you lose them. That’s what happened to this law. Kavanaugh's legislation allows government to ignore requests that are abusive. Which opens the door to them ignoring politically uncomfortable requests.
If Jeremy wants to “audit” that data, don’t pull a cyber ninja on Phoenix, he needs to select one golf course. Or better yet, do a public records request to the Salt River Project, the supplier and see if the supplier data matches the user data.